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Posted 09/28/04 - 11:42 AM:
#1
Paul just wondering if the following are possible because I would like to implement them:
1) Ive noticed a lot of traffic from google. Thats good however now that I have paying sponsors rotating in my headers of all my pages they are wondering if they are being seen. When I look at my logs it shows that google amoungest other engines are spidering the site and listing a search result like the following www.links4jeeps.com/link/1234. Now when the search result is printed obviously the individual clicks on the link and they are taken to the final destination. The only problem Im seeing is now they are not physically coming to my site, but are being sent to my site and away before they see anything but a click through.Is there a way to have the code say if its not a refering click from mysite to throw up a framed window with whatever I want on the top or side or whatever I come up with and the targeted window open in another frame?
2) Im getting a bit more intrest for sponsors and I would like to make a submission where when a sponsor fills in his site he clicks and its submitted to me and I can click and approve it. However I myself would approve it hidden and when he pays using paypal it will apply the money and at the sametime change from hidden to non hidden? Im sure its a bit of code you would add to the paypal piece, but well Im not that slick. Basically I dont want sponsors to get free viewing time until they pay. After they submit payment Ive thrown up a couple fields so they can login upload their banners of choice.
Is number 2 doable with a code addition here and there? I'm asking becasue its a feature I could use now. Well number 1 is as well but number 2 is a bit more inportant to me.
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Posted 09/29/04 - 07:10 PM:
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1) If you're using any version from about 3.00 to 3.11, it already works that way. When the referer is google or yahoo it shows them the link details page instead of going to the link. I've removed this in 3.12 so that it's back to heading directly to the site, due to reading on SEO sites many angry webmasters ranting about people stealing their traffic by using such methods to link to them. While the main issue of knocking linked sites out of google was resovled by changing 301 redirects to 302 (or the other way around, I forget), I still think it best to avoid this practice.
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Posted 09/30/04 - 09:44 AM:
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1) Question: Offer this as an admin configurable option? (just the show detail page instead of linking through ofcourse)
One thing related to this that is annoying is that if they go through directly, it still counts as a hit on your site. Even though don't actually see your site. Meaning it says nothing about how popular that link is on your site (just about how popular it is in search engines). Can something be done about that?
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Posted 09/30/04 - 10:19 AM:
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Well, for one thing, I don't yet know how the search engines are going to treat the new redirect status. I think they won't be indexing those pages anymore... if they interpret the redirect correctly as a permanant instead of temporary redirect they should treat the page link.php?id=x as not existing and they'll only index the destination (the actual url of the site being linked).
I can't really confirm this until some time passes for google to update its index.
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Posted 09/30/04 - 03:33 PM:
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Thanks for the code Paul. However which file am I changing?
As well webmasters are mad that I'm stealing their traffic buy coming to me before them? Heck if they weren't listed on me in the first place they wouldn't of been seen.
I like it that way and personally I'd like the option. I would even be willing to put a disclaimer up for all I care. My site is paid by sponsors and they are listed for free so they should feel greatful. However I'm getting the feeling its out of my hands either way.
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Posted 09/30/04 - 05:23 PM:
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2) paypal.php
1) The search engine bug actually meant that being linked to with such redirects caused sites to disappear from google and other search engines. They have a right to be upset about their page being knocked out of google in favor of your link to it which ends up taking people to your site instead of theirs. As noted above, I don't think that page will show up in search engines anyway once the new redirects take effect.